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Link367
07-06-2009, 11:22 PM
We all know in ALttP's Backstory that it talks about a War when the 7 sages seal back a mysterious power, and the Knights of Hyrule defended the sages and were almost completely wiped out. Right? Well, while I was gone from Theorizing, I was studying ALttP and Fierce War when i came upon this. ALttP's backstory IS the Fierce War... EVeryone knows the ALttP backstory correct?

A long time after the creation of the world, an opening to the Sacred Realm was discovered in Hyrule and the people began to seek the Triforce for themselves. No one returned, however, and evil forces began to issue forth from the Golden Land.


Ganon, instigator of the Imprisoning War.
The Sacred Realm.This was because the leader of a band of thieves named Ganondorf had serendipitously discovered the entrance to the Golden Land. After killing his comrades and seizing control of the Triforce, he made his wish on it. The evil forces coming out of the Sacred Realm swarmed over Hyrule and threatened to engulf the Light World. These evil forces emanating from the Sacred Realm were the first signs of its transformation into the Dark World.

The king of Hyrule summoned seven Sages to seal the entrance to the Golden Land shut, so that Ganon's darkness could no longer plague the land. The sages searched far and wide for the Master Sword so that Ganon could be vanquished, but neither the sword nor one worthy of wielding it could be found.

Without a hero worthy of wielding the blade, the Knights of Hyrule engaged in open combat with Ganon's army as the sages cast the seal. Though most of them were killed, the Knights' lives were not lost in vain, because the seal was cast, and Ganon and his dark forces were cut off from the Light World until the events of A Link to the Past.


Ok, now that we have the story cleared here comes my theory. Zelda ALttP BS is actually the FW. There is many evidenc pointing towards it, now I have to just find them in the many documents in my PC. I will post back with evidence...

TheLegendOfJubby
05-07-2010, 12:48 AM
The FW is the thing Lanayru tells you about in TP, right? Well, I always thought it was just an event in the SW that happened to be useful information to Link in that exact quest, while the rest of the SW wasn't important enough to really tell about.

FallenAngelAzazel
05-07-2010, 05:11 AM
The backstory of ALttP is vague. You have to remember, most Zelda games take place centuries/generations apart from one another, and some are one different timelines and different lands...sometimes historical legends such as the Imprisoning War or the 'Fierce War' (Never heard that term before) are mixed up. It's like a campfire or tribal story. When it's told from generation to generation, things get jumbled along the way.

Also, I don't know what you mean by Fierce War. As I said, never heard of that term before. Although, games after ALttP and Nintendo themselves have said that the war to imprison Ganon (mostly known as the Imprisoning War) and the war to seal the Sacred Realm shut and unite the races (Which takes place before OoT, and is a part of OoT, ALttP, and TP's backstories) are two separate things.

Another misconception is that OoT is the Imprisoning War. Nintendo themselves have said that during development, Four Swords Adventures was made with the intent of being a prequel to ALttP explaining Ganon's new origins and the events of the imprisoning war before ALttP. It makes a lot more sense, when you consider the extremely similar geography, the same backstories for Ganon, and how it matches the Imprisoning War story in ALttP more clearly, such as how the Kingdom becomes enveloped with darkness, the Dark World is more evident, it actually involves the Knights of Hyrule, and Link isn't wielding the Master Sword. If OoT truly was the Imprisoning War, there's too many inconsistencies. The actual Imprisoning War itself takes place during the 7 years later period. The land was perishing and the Hyrulian monarchy wiped out, sure, but it wasn't the type of darkness enveloping like we saw in FSA. OoT was mostly, "Okay, I wipe out the monarchy, build my castle, screw with some people, now I wait for those other two Triforce pieces..." to Ganondorf. Speaking of the monarchy, no knights existed after Ganondorf took everything down 7 years prior. They had no part, literally. Link never became a knight in OoT or after, either. Speaking of Link, he wields the Master Sword, something I'm sure ALttP's backstory had said was impossible because a hero with the right qualities didn't appear to wield it. All of this, coupled with the fact that Nintendo themselves saying FSA was made this way, pretty much place FSA before ALttP and as a majority of the backstory.

Now...as far as this 'Fierce War' I don't know if that's another term for the Imprisoning War, or a combination of that and the Hyrule Civil War, or what. But before OoT, as it was stated in mainly OoT and TP, a portal opened to the Sacred Realm. People started going after it, trying to claim the legendary Triforce, but not being heard from again. Eventually, the ancestors of the Twili, called the Dark Interlopers, at the time one of the many races of Hyrule, tried to use their dark, sorcery powers to establish dominion over the Sacred Realm, one of their key weapons being the Fused Shadow. Meanwhile, as the kingdom had not been unified yet, all the other races of Hyrule saw the portal as a chance to obtain the Triforce, and with people disappearing (probably from the Interloper's actions), and everyone trying to claim it, eventually civil war broke out. Because the Interlopers had played a darker role in everything than others did, and obviously had some sort of presence over the Sacred Realm already and weren't letting go, the Gods called upon the Light Spirits to split apart the Fused Shadow and seal the Interlopers away in the Twilight Realm, and create a portal between the two worlds called the Mirror of Twilight. Meanwhile, with civil war still breaking out, the sages were told to seal the portal shut, and eventually did. The King was then able to get past everyone's greed, unify the multiple races, and then the Light Spirits and the Sages gave these races each a piece of the Fused Shadow, to guard. During all of this, the Hero of Time is also born and brought into the forest, where his mother died shortly after and he was raised a Kokiri.

That is the Civil War. This takes place before OoT, and is a main reason behind a lot of the events in the series. It is not the Imprisoning War. Just want to clear that up.

I think a lot of people forget that ALttP was the third game in the series, back when they weren't thinking of a timeline. It didn't help that the SNES version got an iffy localization, although that was fixed with the GBA version. But yes, ALttP is an important part of the series, and its backstory connects with a lot of other games. But it is also dated.

Then again, we don't know how far apart some of these games are. After all, the Zelda series is, first and foremost, a medieval-themed series. In Medieval times, there were countless, bloody battles over power and greed. There's probably other wars in the series that we're not even aware of.

Honestly, I don't think Nintendo thought of an actual timeline until they started work on OoT. That's why it's hard to place the games before it, as everything after it is MOSTLY straightforward. ALttP happens to be one of those games. At one point, it could've been referencing OoT, as back then it did make a lot of sense. But since then, they've gone and made FSA, which makes great sense in itself to be the backstory, but only confuses things further in regards to OoT and what else ALttP could be referencing. And I doubt Miyamoto and Aonuma are ready to reveal the timeline document anytime soon, so until that happens or future games explain it, we'll just have to keep on guessing and speculating with the hints we're given.